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I have english national tests on tuesday.. we're gonna write an essay in english ( duuhh
) in 1 hour and a half. 
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I have english national tests on tuesday.. we're gonna write an essay in english ( duuhh ) in 1 hour and a half.
thanks I have english national tests on tuesday.. we're gonna write an essay in english ( duuhh
) in 1 hour and a half.
flechesbleues:
*clears throat*
Ok, today's lesson will be on the difference between a prize and a price.
A priZe is something you win (e.g. in a raffle)
A priCe is the amount you pay for something (e.g. in a shop)
They aren't homophones. Prize ends with a voiced 'z' sound, price ends with an unvoiced 's' sound (although of course pronunciation doesn't really matter on the forum).
Sorry, I see it all the time around the forum and it bugs meI couldn't hold it in any longer
In danish we don't have voiced S's, so if you say "Zoo" it can come out "sue" the same with dog and duck, it sounds like a dk person says duck when actually meaning dog. colour and collar is difficult as well.
in danish we pronounce the medial T as D as well.
It's just if you meet any danish people, then you can say; aaaahhh, i know why you say that
I had a year of fonetics at uni....loved it.
oh I know that there are sounds in English (well, and whatever language) that other languages don't have, and I understand why that makes it difficult. I was just putting on my English teacher hat 
FB! What a coincidence! That's the mistake I made in my last assignment for my English course
*clears throat*
Ok, today's lesson will be on the difference between a prize and a price.
A priZe is something you win (e.g. in a raffle)
A priCe is the amount you pay for something (e.g. in a shop)
They aren't homophones. Prize ends with a voiced 'z' sound, price ends with an unvoiced 's' sound (although of course pronunciation doesn't really matter on the forum
Sorry, I see it all the time around the forum and it bugs me
Wow, thanks FB- I allways thought the one was Americain and the other British spelling
Wow, thanks FB- I allways thought the one was Americain and the other British spelling
I can see where you got that idea from, that is the case with some other ize/ise words, words where the ize/ise is a suffix, I think, rather than in this case where it's an integral part of the word. Do I mean suffix? I mean in cases such as capitalise/ze, rationalise/ze, modernise/ze etc. Then it's genenerally a case of a UK/USA spelling difference, and there's no pronunciation difference (well, not a fundamental one, and not in the ise/ize part, of course the accents are different, which may subtly change other sounds!)
oh I know that there are sounds in English (well, and whatever language) that other languages don't have, and I understand why that makes it difficult. I was just putting on my English teacher hat
I know you were
I love this lab.
I'm already an english teacher, so i''m picking up tips in this thread.
so thank you all for that
Also, as in almost any language, double negatives are just wrong.
I didn't do nothing
I didn't ask nobody
are WRONG.
Sorry, but that is just a pet peeve of mine.
I didn't do nothing
I didn't ask nobody
are WRONG.
Sorry, but that is just a pet peeve of mine.
I have english national tests on tuesday.. we're gonna write an essay in english ( duuhh
the nationals went good!! I hope
nahh it felt good hehe the last national tests in english ar ethe listening part and the understanding part.. it's this friday
QUOTE (flechesbleues @ Apr 21 2006, 04:49 PM)oh I know that there are sounds in English (well, and whatever language) that other languages don't have, and I understand why that makes it difficult. I was just putting on my English teacher hat
I know you were
I love this lab.
I'm already an english teacher, so i''m picking up tips in this thread.
so thank you all for that
*Lol* In some German dialects (and I think also in some English-ones) they are reinforcements... sometimes language doesn't obey the algebra of logic
Aaaaaaaah- I was refering to Femkes post--- I'm not used yet to find the buttons down instead of above the post
I don't know any English dialects where it's correct. That's not to say it doesn't ever happen though*Karen*
what does " happiness is a warm gun, baby" mean??
maybe anybody here can help me.
maybe anybody here can help me.
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
But apart from that ... a gun is warm after a 'shot' isn't it?
So what was the context, someone said it to you?
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
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But apart from that ... a gun is warm after a 'shot' isn't it?
well i´m going to england to visit a friend of mine and i asked him to say his opinion about how long i should stay...
his answer was:
My opinion on lisi´s trip to england: happiness is a warm gun, baby???
but i´ve no idea, what that means..
[quote name='flechesbleues' post='612873' date='May 3 2006, 09:39 AM']
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
yes, that´s what i found out too, that´s a song...
but i don´t understand the meaning or the lyrics of the song either...
so
You'll be waiting a while if you want to 'understand' the lyrics to Beatles songs (half the time they don't mean a thing)... I have an inkling that this one is something about drugs though (for a change )
Best ask him what he meant really, I have no idea either!
(half the time they don't mean a thing)... I have an inkling that this one is something about drugs though (for a change )Best ask him what he meant really, I have no idea either!
You'll be waiting a while if you want to 'understand' the lyrics to Beatles songs
Best ask him what he meant really, I have no idea either!
i´ve asked him a couple of times but.... there is no answer.
so maybe he doesn´t no it either...
but nevertheless thanks!!!
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
[/quote]
But apart from that ... a gun is warm after a 'shot' isn't it?
well i´m going to england to visit a friend of mine and i asked him to say his opinion about how long i should stay...
his answer was:
My opinion on lisi´s trip to england: happiness is a warm gun, baby???
but i´ve no idea, what that means..
[quote name='flechesbleues' post='612873' date='May 3 2006, 09:39 AM']
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
yes, that´s what i found out too, that´s a song...
but i don´t understand the meaning or the lyrics of the song either...
so
I think it means you shouldn't stay for too long and that you can it enjoy it best when you enjoy it short (it has some sexual innuendo- that's maybe, why he hesitates to explain it properly -maybe he's a bit ashamed in the meantime)
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
[/quote]
But apart from that ... a gun is warm after a 'shot' isn't it?
well i´m going to england to visit a friend of mine and i asked him to say his opinion about how long i should stay...
his answer was:
My opinion on lisi´s trip to england: happiness is a warm gun, baby???
but i´ve no idea, what that means..
[quote name='flechesbleues' post='612873' date='May 3 2006, 09:39 AM']
erm... it's the title of a Beatles song
yes, that´s what i found out too, that´s a song...
but i don´t understand the meaning or the lyrics of the song either...
so
I think it means you shouldn't stay for too long and that you can it enjoy it best when you enjoy it short
oh noooo. now its too late i´ve already booked my flight!!!
oh noooo. now its too late i´ve already booked my flight!!!
I'm sure it wasn't supposed to be serious - only some pubescent blah
Today I have a question about pronounciation rules... that damn "ea" in English, which must have about at least 4 totally different sounds (breath, eagerly, earth, I'm sure there are more....)... when I read an unknown word - is there any rule which helps me to find out how the pronounciation could be most likely?
I doubt it, there aren't really any pronunciation rules in English, we're just weird
oh noooo. now its too late i´ve already booked my flight!!!
I'm sure it wasn't supposed to be serious - only some pubescent blah
Get a pronunciation dictionary and learn the phonetic alphabet, that's the way of learning the sounds. there are no specific rules
ok, weird. the reply button didn't work as i thought it would.
karen: it was a respond to the pronunciation bit of "ea"
On the 'ea' bit, just go by your instincts I'd say.
In 'breath' it's like 'brehth', in 'breathe' it's like 'breeth', same as in 'eager'.
It is hard to explain, the only way to learn ('lurn') is to listen, listen, listen and listen to people speaking (speeking) English.
In 'breath' it's like 'brehth', in 'breathe' it's like 'breeth', same as in 'eager'.
It is hard to explain, the only way to learn ('lurn') is to listen, listen, listen and listen to people speaking (speeking) English.
On the 'ea' bit, just go by your instincts I'd say.
In 'breath' it's like 'brehth', in 'breathe' it's like 'breeth', same as in 'eager'.
It is hard to explain, the only way to learn ('lurn') is to listen, listen, listen and listen to people speaking (speeking) English.
no Karen, dont listen to English people speaking English, listen to FB, she has a nice accent, me and 30s have regional accents which wont help, honest
no Karen, dont listen to English people speaking English, listen to FB, she has a nice accent, me and 30s have regional accents which wont help, honest
*blushes*
On the 'ea' bit, just go by your instincts I'd say.
In 'breath' it's like 'brehth', in 'breathe' it's like 'breeth', same as in 'eager'.
It is hard to explain, the only way to learn ('lurn') is to listen, listen, listen and listen to people speaking (speeking) English.
no Karen, dont listen to English people speaking English, listen to FB, she has a nice accent, me and 30s have regional accents which wont help, honest
That remembers me at a pupils exchange. Our school had an exchange with a school in Oxford. And what happened to me? I came to a family, who was just mooved from Edinburgh
- I came back home with the hardest scottish accent you can ever imagine. (Lost it again in the meantime hopefully)Oh and about the 'ea' I think in the meantime I have some sort of instinct for it ... but when I was in at Fb's, I recognized that all the time I pronounced "either"/"neither" wrongly.... I was used to pronounce the English ei all the time like the "ea" in "breathe" - but then I recognized, that it sometimes has exactly the same sound as the ei in German
QUOTE (*Karen* @ May 4 2006, 11:11 AM) 
Oh and about the 'ea' I think in the meantime I have some sort of instinct for it ... but when I was in at Fb's, I recognized that all the time I pronounced "either"/"neither" wrongly.... I was used to pronounce the English ei all the time like the "ea" in "breathe" - but then I recognized, that it sometimes has exactly the same sound as the ei in German
I don't think there's a right and wrong between those two, I sometimes think I pronounce it differently from one day (nay, sentence!) to the next!
Let's call the whole thing off
I just read.."pooper scooper"...what is that??
I just read.."pooper scooper"...what is that??
what you might use to pick up dog dirt from the pavement when walking your dog
I just read.."pooper scooper"...what is that??
what you might use to pick up dog dirt from the pavement when walking your dog
No wonder you don't know it atroi, it's obviously not in use 'round Cologne
New question: Do any of you know what "happiness is like a warm gun, baby" mean? Other than that it is from a Beatles song. A friend asked me this question and people over here in England don't habe a clue. Thanks a lot.
New question: Do any of you know what "happiness is like a warm gun, baby" mean? Other than that it is from a Beatles song. A friend asked me this question and people over here in England don't habe a clue. Thanks a lot.
Seems to be a very popular sentence these days
(you may have a look a few posts above).
QUOTE (*Karen* @ May 4 2006, 11:11 AM)Oh and about the 'ea' I think in the meantime I have some sort of instinct for it ... but when I was in at Fb's, I recognized that all the time I pronounced "either"/"neither" wrongly.... I was used to pronounce the English ei all the time like the "ea" in "breathe" - but then I recognized, that it sometimes has exactly the same sound as the ei in German
I don't think there's a right and wrong between those two, I sometimes think I pronounce it differently from one day (nay, sentence!) to the next!
Let's call the whole thing off
I always thought that neither and either was pronounced "naither/aither" in british and "Neether/eether" in american.... am i wrong about that???
I always thought that neither and either was pronounced "naither/aither" in british and "Neether/eether" in american.... am i wrong about that???
I don't think it's as clear-cut a distinction as that, unfortunately
New question: Do any of you know what "happiness is like a warm gun, baby" mean? Other than that it is from a Beatles song. A friend asked me this question and people over here in England don't habe a clue. Thanks a lot.
Seems to be a very popular sentence these days
Well, yes, you're right *blushes*...
I still haven't figures out a proper meaning...but I like Karen's interpretation, so I'll stick to that one
Had the national tests last friday and it went ..,.. nahhhh mm there was alot of hard words I seriously didn't undetstand but I hope it went well
but I hope it went well
I'll cross my fingers for you.
just read..."hornswoggled"....??????
just read..."hornswoggled"....??????
Where did you read that? Not Francis Bacon anymore I guess ;-)
just read..."hornswoggled"....??????
I had to look that up myself, although I've heard it before, I wasn't sure it wasn't just a nonsense word I'd read somewhere, but no, apparently it originated in the 19th century American West and means something like bamboozle or cheat (link)
HiYA, I should've discovered this thread ages ago, I am an absolute English nut, even though it's not my first language I'm quite good at it having had half my education with English 1st language.
A friend told me about a word he discovered and had never heard before "jingoistic" which means like... umm now I'm going to laugh I can't actually remember that word now... xenophobia? I think so yes.
How cool is that word?
A friend told me about a word he discovered and had never heard before "jingoistic" which means like... umm now I'm going to laugh I can't actually remember that word now... xenophobia? I think so yes.
How cool is that word?
More about jingoistic from here
First, the word jingo came from the Basque word Jainko, meaning God, so the expression "by Jingo!" is the same as "by God!" Brewer's states that this term started to be used when Basque soldiers were imported by Edward I (1239-1307) to fight in Wales.
Between that time and the Russo-Turkish War (1877-78), the adjective "jingo" was used to describe a rather vulgar person (someone who would say "by Jingo").
Jingoism means extreme nationalism characterized by shows of excessive patriotism, usually associated with going to war. This word came about when England was considering involvement in the Russo-TurkishWar. A music hall song of that time proclaimed:
"We don't want to fight: but if we do, by Jingo,
We've got the ships, we've got the men, and got the money, too!"
Jingoism became the term for the sentiment expressed in the song and a jingoist is a person who embodies that sentiment.
"ingeniously off the mark matters......" Off the mark?????
just read..."hornswoggled"....??????
Where did you read that? Not Francis Bacon anymore I guess ;-)
Exactly...no SIR Francis Bacon....
but a very shallow "manhunt"
Question: What does " btw" and "PMSL" mean??
Question: What does " btw" and "PMSL" mean??
By the way
Pissing myself laughing
I find the urban dictionary very handy for things like this
Thanks!!
I understand better now!
I understand better now!
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