nni
Oct 21 2008, 12:27 PM
So, as you may have noticed on the title, I'm writing an article about twitter (twitter.com). I think some of you propably heard about this microblog, or even have a profile in there.
The idea of this article is to show how journalism is using this web tool nowadays. CNN and NY Times, for example, have a page on twitter, where they post headlines with links to the full texts or videos, which allows a close interaction with the users.
So I wanted to know if anyone here read news via twitter, or post comments about facts that are going on etc. If so, what do you think of tv channels or newspapers getting closer to the public through sites like this.
I would reaaaally appreciate if you could give me a quick interview to talk about it.
Thanks in advance.
t0mmazzy
Oct 21 2008, 06:16 PM
i knew twitter, but i'm not a user
i think it's good to newspappers and channels have a 'familiar relationship' with the user it's very good, cause like this the user and the reader will feel better, will feel like comfotable, and the human being need to feel comfortable always did, since the pre-history, that's why we are what we are today and that's why the human kind has tranformed it self, and improved it self ( i could related this to design and i could say that in the same moment that human being is born design born too, cause design is related with comfort, design is what human kind does to improve HIS life!) And a website where the people can find information in their own home is amazing independetly that the information is manipulated or not. (i think the information and the Media in General are all manipulated) I think you have a great work in your front !
Tom
nni
Oct 21 2008, 09:09 PM
Thank you very much Tom!
Well, that's basically what I think too. I believe that closer the press gets to the public, more pleasant is their relation. And interaction is definitely the future. These tools like blogs are changing old concepts bought by the big media corporations ages ago!
t0mmazzy
Oct 21 2008, 09:28 PM
welcome,

always a pleasure to help you
yes...everyone should have acess to information, but first the same 'everyone' have to know how to use this information and how to read this information, the vocabulary is very important, they should know the origin of the words cause only this way, the information can be understand and used in a positive way. And have more than one option of information not the one that appears to there front, people need to re-search to don't let manipulate them selfs about unuseless and fake information
tom.
Carol
Oct 22 2008, 12:26 AM
well nni,
I have never heard about twitter!
I'm quite aware that nowadays Internet rules most of the information that gets to us, but I'm still the person who uses Internet to search for works, specially programs linked to translation, to search for music topics, fashion and cinema.
I still watch the news on tv or read them on free papers. I don't have a lot of time to read the newspaper my mother buys.
anyway, people expressing their opinions is really good.
it is really rare to see commented news on a online newspaper.
about what Tom said, I'm currently studying culture and linguistics and the thing is: they are so mixed that nowadays languages, specially English are developing really fast. that makes the sense of the words change, so the original meaning his lost. and we must not forget that that origin has even another origin in ancient dialects. I guess the real problem is to get journalists to write as clear as possible and with no mistakes. my opinion is that journalism is also a way of educating society.
if you need anything else or you want to ask something different please be my guest

c a r o l .
xx
Tracey D
Oct 22 2008, 02:59 PM
I haven't heard of it either, so i'm presuming it hasn't reached UK journalism yet!
I have whole essays on new media and the internet (not Twitter though) and obviously in English but i've you want any examples outside of Twitter I could probably give you that.
t0mmazzy
Oct 22 2008, 08:32 PM
QUOTE (Carol @ Oct 22 2008, 01:26 AM)

well nni,
about what Tom said, I'm currently studying culture and linguistics and the thing is: they are so mixed that nowadays languages, specially English are developing really fast. that makes the sense of the words change, so the original meaning his lost. and we must not forget that that origin has even another origin in ancient dialects. I guess the real problem is to get journalists to write as clear as possible and with no mistakes. my opinion is that journalism is also a way of educating society.
if you need anything else or you want to ask something different please be my guest

c a r o l .
xx
that's interesting Carol

I agree with the last part of what you said 'I guess the real problem is to get journalists to write as clear as possible and with no mistakes.. ' cause some people just don't have enough education do read complicated words is not heir fault in great part of the times, but anyway, the sense of words can change but is origin will never change, never, the origin of something obviously will never change, I've passed the weekend with a cousin, wich is architect and came back from Barcelona where he was a Master Degree, and he had a discipline wich talked about that and he told me that the origin of a word will help you to understand really the meaning of the words that have orgin in that word....the origin of something will never change in nothing !
Carol
Oct 22 2008, 08:40 PM
obvious Tom! in fact the best way to translate things is either to search an equivalent in another language or try to look the Latin or Greek roots. the world never loses his old meaning.
people are the ones who build language. you have the convention and you have the cultural context. so, back to the old meaning point, you get a new way of saying what you mean and the other word is no longer used. not because it is wrong, but simply because it is the way people talk. and in language is all that matters. you cannot understand the other if you don't know the new use, even if you know the root or the origin of the language.
but in my work origin can be very important. usually the main objective is just to find the equivalent, otherwise you have to search for other ways.
cheers
t0mmazzy
Oct 23 2008, 07:00 PM
so you're argeeing with me and discording when you said '.... that makes the sense of the words change, so the original meaning his lost.... ' now you said the words never loses his old meaning... obviously, aah the globalization makes the languagues blend them selfs, and I agree with you when you said that '..people cannot understand the other if ou don't know the new use..'
Carol
Oct 23 2008, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (t0mmazzy @ Oct 23 2008, 08:00 PM)

so you're argeeing with me and discording when you said '.... that makes the sense of the words change, so the original meaning his lost.... ' now you said the words never loses his old meaning... obviously, aah the globalization makes the languagues blend them selfs, and I agree with you when you said that '..people cannot understand the other if ou don't know the new use..'
what I was trying to say is that it is agreed on convention that a word means something, but native speakers used them with another sense. I'm sorry I wasn't clear
t0mmazzy
Oct 25 2008, 12:46 PM
obviously yes...i understand but that's the opposite of what we were saying cause the site that NNI mentioned have to had an easy 'language ' to everybody understand!
Carol
Oct 25 2008, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (t0mmazzy @ Oct 25 2008, 01:46 PM)

obviously yes...i understand but that's the opposite of what we were saying cause the site that NNI mentioned have to had an easy 'language ' to everybody understand!
so I suppose the language chosen is English...
t0mmazzy
Oct 25 2008, 08:37 PM
maybe, is called the universal language
Carol
Oct 25 2008, 08:53 PM
QUOTE (t0mmazzy @ Oct 25 2008, 09:37 PM)

maybe, is called the universal language
long live to globalization
t0mmazzy
Oct 27 2008, 10:51 PM
yes.... i think after all have more positive aspects than negative...deppends on the point of view
Carol
Oct 27 2008, 11:43 PM
QUOTE (t0mmazzy @ Oct 27 2008, 10:51 PM)

yes.... i think after all have more positive aspects than negative...deppends on the point of view
I have the same opinion
nni
Oct 29 2008, 10:31 AM
Wow, I opened a quite interesting discussion here. That's good!

I'm just sorry for not being able to read everything and answer properly right now. This whole thing with this article I'm writing and all the others is making me busy.
Tracey D
Oct 29 2008, 03:51 PM
I actually heard someone mention Twitter on a UK TV show the other day but can't remember why they mentioned it now!!
pisces
Dec 5 2008, 01:17 PM
As you know, I love Twitter. Mainly because I can track my favourite websites that post news without going to those sites. So if an article pops up that sounds interesting, I will go to the site and look into it. I can skim through titles without opening multiple pages. Everything is through Twitter!
nni
Dec 18 2008, 04:22 PM
Just to give you all a feedback.
My article about the use of journalism on twitter and the phenomenon created by this site went pretty well. The text is probably going to be published in a book next year. It's a project that one of my teachers is organising and he chose my research to be a part of that.
Your help were much appreciated, guys!
t0mmazzy
Dec 30 2008, 03:12 PM
Good to know nni..

good luck with that and, if you need my help you can ask me anytime
nni
Dec 30 2008, 06:57 PM
Thank you Tom!
That's really kind of you.
Carol
Jan 2 2009, 09:08 PM
QUOTE (nni @ Dec 18 2008, 04:22 PM)

Just to give you all a feedback.
My article about the use of journalism on twitter and the phenomenon created by this site went pretty well. The text is probably going to be published in a book next year. It's a project that one of my teachers is organising and he chose my research to be a part of that.
Your help were much appreciated, guys!
ohhh! that's pretty good, nni! congrats!
Thank you!!
t0mmazzy
Jan 9 2009, 07:46 PM
GOGO nni
nni
Jan 12 2009, 02:59 PM
I think we're going back to the project at the end of this month...we had to take a break on holidays.
Carol
Jan 14 2009, 10:25 AM
QUOTE (nni @ Jan 12 2009, 02:59 PM)

I think we're going back to the project at the end of this month...we had to take a break on holidays.
well that's good. at least you can have some more ideas, don't you?
nni
Jan 14 2009, 03:26 PM
Oh yes, sure.
I have to do one more interview and correct some details in the text and then schedule a meeting with my teacher and my group.
t0mmazzy
Jan 15 2009, 03:34 PM
I'm needing a blog to wright some toughts ... nni do you think twitter is a good choice ?
nni
Jan 15 2009, 06:54 PM
Well Tom, it depends on what is your main focus.
If you want to write quick thoughs, small lines, twitter is the way. Twitter is a mini-blog. Each post has a limit of 140 characters, although you can write as many posts as you want.
But if what you want is a proper, longer text; a place to write your ideas, then I highly recommend you Blogger. From all the hosting sites, I think blogger is the best one. I have an account and I'm very happy with it.
Twitter has a blogger widget, that places a small window on your blogger page...so people can read your long texts and your twitts at the same time.
t0mmazzy
Jan 15 2009, 11:47 PM
aaaah....Thank you nni ..

but I've been tought about it and then i will get tired of the blog and I've not interesting thoughts to put on it, maybe I will not create one.
thank you a lot anyway ..

and sorry ...
nni
Jan 16 2009, 12:44 AM
You're welcome!
What a pity you're giving up!
I love blogging, love reading other blogs. I think you should try, sometimes when that light comes up and you suddenly think about nice things, or have a strong opinion about a certain subject, it's good to have a place to put these thoughts. It's possible to create a private or a friends only page, if you want to keep it more personal...and you can always delete it anytime.
But you know, it's your decision.
t0mmazzy
Jan 17 2009, 08:59 PM
Hey, after all i've created one yesterday.

not taking it serious just in a good mood way
here :
http://twitter.com/tommazzy
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